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the conclusion that the selection of school at the age of 11 years is irresponsible is considered "messianic" and "irrational prejudice" by Dr. Christopher Ray, Manchester Grammar master high school ( Letters, October 24). You might ask some questions. For example, why the average skill level of Hampshire, do not select at 11, much higher than that of Kent, 32 schools? Given that some form of selection at 16 is necessary to have students who do well at this age must have been in a particular type of school before? The answer is no. Schools such as Westminster and Camden school for girls, with a mixture of forms, including sixth students from other schools, no new students is significantly lower than those who entered in a younger age. Or those students who were selected at 11. As in other sixth form colleges, college students Hills Road have not been selected, and how the results of the university compared to those of AMS in terms of admissions at Oxford and Cambridge? As for the "deliberate misrepresentation-tion" that "many independent schools like mine" are the "privilege of the rich" is not aware that most schools most successful independent charge high fees? Academic, MSG used to compete on an equal footing with Westminster, Winchester and Eton. If it still does and is raising a large number of poor children, Dr. Ray is to be commended. But is not it?

Peter Newsam

Thornton-le-Dale, North Yorkshire

. Dr. Ray suffers messianic belief to separate the children were younger as possible in cash or early academic promise. They should consult the state that ranks higher than any other in the English speaking world, ranked by OECD Education - Alberta. Managers cock Edmonton proudly that not only broke the system of private schools, but threaten to fly out of the water for any private school that is trying to win - because the state system is not damn good. They do not set children. As the boss asked, incredulously, why would you do that to a child? Why label them and their potential in such a young age?
Ray has to go and then wonder why it is consumed in the lower half of the international tables. As leaders in Alberta are well aware, is largely because they are loaded with a selective approach, looking back and damage the class based on the private system whose cultural elitism, this government is doing everything possible to imitate destroy our public school system where they could be improved.

Rhonda Evans

London

. Dr. Ray said his school is not the "privilege of the rich." While 50% of households in the UK have an income of 20,000 pounds or less, only those earning £ 18.500 or less, would be entitled to a free place in the AMS. The school offers about 250 scholarships (over 1300 seats in total) at full price set at £ 9,996 per year. Fortunately, with a gross family income of £ 28,750 children would be eligible to compete for a scholarship by offering a 50% discount. I am interested to know how Ray defines "maintain" and "rich."

Dr Simon Gibbs

/ yy> Associate Professor of Educational Psychology, University of Newcastle

. The greatest master of Manchester Grammar School accused "the left" is not willing to discuss the issue of rational education academic selective due to a "pathological aversion" to any evidence that contradict the "messianic belief" that the school is also desirable. As there has been little research in this area of ??research, which could have been better that produced certain evidence whose existence is concerned, instead of enjoying cheap

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would be helpful if Dr. Ray have to deal with the conclusion of the OECD Secretariat that "the average student performance in selective education systems is on average less than complete 'or s' It could explain why the selection has little role in the education systems of countries where students regularly as the rest of the world in the PISA tests. Maybe he could explain why children in 15 local authorities in the UK who have always supported since 1944 have targeted as well, it was not better overall than the rest of the nation's children

Meanwhile, it is good to be sure that AMS is not "the privilege of the rich." With 35% of children eligible for free school meals in Manchester, will be Dr. Ray, let us know how students compare their own use
Michael Pyke

www.campaignforstateeducation . org.uk

. Of course, schools, and Dr. Ray is "preserved the rich." How many children from families with medium and low average incomes attend? Very little, because I'm sure the Dr. Ray admitted. And as for his pro-choice argument that "all children are different", maybe. But "different" from that point in your life?

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